Comments on: Beastly Men with Hot Wives http://www.ipatrix.com/2059/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/ Crossing Borders Crossing Cultures Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:20:00 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Patrixhttp://www.ipatrix.com/2059/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10709 Patrix Fri, 01 Jun 2007 19:24:57 +0000 http://www.ipatrix.com/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10709 <b>M</b>, glad to hear the opinion from a woman's perspective regarding Kambli's looks. And that perhaps is what I was trying to allude to i.e. Kambli being declared a 'beast' because his wife is relatively attractive. LOL @ the comparison being the other way around. But being a guy I cannot agree with your opinion on her being 'beastly messy' :) M, glad to hear the opinion from a woman’s perspective regarding Kambli’s looks. And that perhaps is what I was trying to allude to i.e. Kambli being declared a ‘beast’ because his wife is relatively attractive. LOL @ the comparison being the other way around. But being a guy I cannot agree with your opinion on her being ‘beastly messy’ :)

]]> By: mhttp://www.ipatrix.com/2059/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10706 m Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:59:27 +0000 http://www.ipatrix.com/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10706 actually i think he looks neat........she on the other hand is kind of beastly messy..........are you sure the beast was the man....... actually i think he looks neat……..she on the other hand is kind of beastly messy……….are you sure the beast was the man…….

]]> By: curiouscathttp://www.ipatrix.com/2059/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10702 curiouscat Thu, 31 May 2007 12:18:09 +0000 http://www.ipatrix.com/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10702 uh oh...deja vu...vulturo...madrasi chicks... uh oh…deja vu…vulturo…madrasi chicks…

]]> By: Patrixhttp://www.ipatrix.com/2059/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10698 Patrix Wed, 30 May 2007 21:22:50 +0000 http://www.ipatrix.com/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10698 <b>Prasenjeet</b>, no re baba! You got me all wrong. I wasn't commenting on anyone's perception of beauty but only pointing out how being dark-skinned is enough to be labeled a 'beast'. The picture in the comments of the story cemented my belief. I wouldn't have seen anything offensive if he was merely thought of as unworthy of her hotness...there are plenty of ways to convey that sentiment. But I doubt traveling anywhere is going to change Indians equating beauty with fairness. Prasenjeet, no re baba! You got me all wrong. I wasn’t commenting on anyone’s perception of beauty but only pointing out how being dark-skinned is enough to be labeled a ‘beast’. The picture in the comments of the story cemented my belief. I wouldn’t have seen anything offensive if he was merely thought of as unworthy of her hotness…there are plenty of ways to convey that sentiment. But I doubt traveling anywhere is going to change Indians equating beauty with fairness.

]]> By: Prasenjeethttp://www.ipatrix.com/2059/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10696 Prasenjeet Wed, 30 May 2007 20:26:49 +0000 http://www.ipatrix.com/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10696 > Perhaps no one has ever told them that such thinking is actually regressive. Perhaps because telling people what to think doesn't really work? (Except in progressive fantasies). Especially in something as subjective as what constitutes attractiveness. The problem of bone-headed beauty standards is self-correcting. As Indians travel more and become more cosmopolitan their ideas about what constitutes beauty will change too. > Perhaps no one has ever told them that such thinking is actually regressive.

Perhaps because telling people what to think doesn’t really work? (Except in progressive fantasies). Especially in something as subjective as what constitutes attractiveness.

The problem of bone-headed beauty standards is self-correcting. As Indians travel more and become more cosmopolitan their ideas about what constitutes beauty will change too.

]]> By: Patrixhttp://www.ipatrix.com/2059/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10695 Patrix Wed, 30 May 2007 20:25:28 +0000 http://www.ipatrix.com/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10695 <b>Prasanjeet</b>, whoa! your rant was longer than my post :) But I understand what you are saying and that's why I didn't mention 'racism' because it is in fact 'color prejudice' as you point out. I agree there are far bigger and more serious discriminatory issues in India but wouldn't it make my posts longer if I include all of them in my disclaimers. Like I said, it might be a minor quibble to point out Kambli being called a 'beast' but nevertheless it is a significant aspect of our outlook since he is being labeled thus only because he is dark. Prasanjeet, whoa! your rant was longer than my post :) But I understand what you are saying and that’s why I didn’t mention ‘racism’ because it is in fact ‘color prejudice’ as you point out. I agree there are far bigger and more serious discriminatory issues in India but wouldn’t it make my posts longer if I include all of them in my disclaimers. Like I said, it might be a minor quibble to point out Kambli being called a ‘beast’ but nevertheless it is a significant aspect of our outlook since he is being labeled thus only because he is dark.

]]> By: Prasenjeethttp://www.ipatrix.com/2059/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10693 Prasenjeet Wed, 30 May 2007 19:44:09 +0000 http://www.ipatrix.com/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10693 What discrimination? Someone captioning an image of Kambli in a way that makes him a 'beast' by implication? People who crib about things like this are over-sensitive people leading over-comfortable lives, IMHO. So the guy who captioned the image has questionable taste, but tastes in the looks dept vary a lot, and if he doesn't find dark-skinned guys attractive ... *shrug*. Real racism (or "color-prejudice" given that Kambli's not really of a different race) would be if one didn't cheer for Kambli at a cricket match because he's dark-skinned. Or if he didn't get selected into the cricket team because of his skin color. Let's not trivialize India's very real social inequities by getting worked up over imagined color-prejudice. It's far worse (deadly, sometimes) in India to be of the "wrong" religion or caste or ethnic group or state -- e.g., spare a thought for those in NE India who wonder why India's economic boom is leaving them behind! Then there are relatively smaller, but very real problems faced by people with the "wrong" accent/education (which Patrix has written about before IIRC). On the other hand, people with the "wrong" skin color can (and do!) get by just fine, unless they happen to be in a profession where one is judged on one's looks. Frankly, if you want to bitch and moan about India's inequities, wouldn't it make more sense to highlight the bigger, more intractable problems rather than feel all holier-than-thou by branding people with relatively archaic and superficial ideas about beauty with the serious, connotation-heavy tag of "racist"? Sorry about the overlong reply, but I'm sick and tired about the horribly oversimplified "Indians are racist" line that comes up every time a discussion of Indian beauty standards comes up. What discrimination? Someone captioning an image of Kambli in a way that makes him a ‘beast’ by implication? People who crib about things like this are over-sensitive people leading over-comfortable lives, IMHO.

So the guy who captioned the image has questionable taste, but tastes in the looks dept vary a lot, and if he doesn’t find dark-skinned guys attractive … *shrug*.

Real racism (or “color-prejudice” given that Kambli’s not really of a different race) would be if one didn’t cheer for Kambli at a cricket match because he’s dark-skinned. Or if he didn’t get selected into the cricket team because of his skin color.

Let’s not trivialize India’s very real social inequities by getting worked up over imagined color-prejudice. It’s far worse (deadly, sometimes) in India to be of the “wrong” religion or caste or ethnic group or state — e.g., spare a thought for those in NE India who wonder why India’s economic boom is leaving them behind!

Then there are relatively smaller, but very real problems faced by people with the “wrong” accent/education (which Patrix has written about before IIRC).

On the other hand, people with the “wrong” skin color can (and do!) get by just fine, unless they happen to be in a profession where one is judged on one’s looks.

Frankly, if you want to bitch and moan about India’s inequities, wouldn’t it make more sense to highlight the bigger, more intractable problems rather than feel all holier-than-thou by branding people with relatively archaic and superficial ideas about beauty with the serious, connotation-heavy tag of “racist”?

Sorry about the overlong reply, but I’m sick and tired about the horribly oversimplified “Indians are racist” line that comes up every time a discussion of Indian beauty standards comes up.

]]> By: Patrixhttp://www.ipatrix.com/2059/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10691 Patrix Wed, 30 May 2007 19:22:49 +0000 http://www.ipatrix.com/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10691 <b>Sampada</b>, the 'not knowing' part troubles me most. Perhaps no one has ever told them that such thinking is actually regressive. <b>Santosh</b>, sure! no denying that! :) Sampada, the ‘not knowing’ part troubles me most. Perhaps no one has ever told them that such thinking is actually regressive.

Santosh, sure! no denying that! :)

]]> By: Santoshhttp://www.ipatrix.com/2059/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10688 Santosh Wed, 30 May 2007 16:38:17 +0000 http://www.ipatrix.com/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10688 Kambli's wife is "yowza"!!! Kambli’s wife is “yowza”!!!

]]> By: Sampadahttp://www.ipatrix.com/2059/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10686 Sampada Wed, 30 May 2007 16:03:17 +0000 http://www.ipatrix.com/beastly-men-with-hot-wives/#comment-10686 Racism runs deeper in people's conscience. Most of them don't even know they are racist. Racism runs deeper in people’s conscience. Most of them don’t even know they are racist.

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